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We loved working with our parents, it was
a dream come true.
Noori
Instep talks to Noori brothers Ali Noor, Ali Hamza and their parents
Ali Kazim and
Noor Zehra about working together, Coke Studio, folk music and more...
By Amar Ayaz
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Instep:
What was it like working with Rohail Hyatt and the House Band
again this Season? Do you plan on staying on beyond this season?
Why? Ali Kazim: Since I have never performed in any such event
earlier, it is difficult to make any comparisons. However, I may
say that despite my being uneasy about my first performance, I
felt that there was an air of ease and comfort generated by Mr
Rohail Hyatt and his team. Which made my experience at Coke Studio
pleasant and enjoyable. The remarkable thing about Mr Hyatt is
the freedom which is allowed to the performers to express themselves
as they wish.
Noor Zehra: Completely new experience of doing
the music that I do. I would say that doing Classical Music has
been like studying in a university and doing Coke Studio is like
practically applying that training in a totally different environment
with a very different genre of music. I have had to tailor my
performance a lot in order to fit it into a more structured and
variously instrumented environment.
Rohail is an easy person to get on with and he gave a lot of freedom
to musicians. There was no constraint whatsoever on the way you
want to participate.
Noori: Working with Rohail Hyatt is not just working with one
man. There's a full fledged production house running there.
And there is no doubt that Frequency Media has one of the best
hosting services in this business! Jokes apart, these guys are
one of the most well organized and graceful people in the music
industry. It is always an enjoyable experience working with them.
Being able to be part of consecutive seasons, we have witnessed
the evolution of Coke Studio as a production. Even more so, we
ourselves have been going through a similar journey in our own
work, and hence working with Rohail and his team becomes a wholesome
experience; we get to observe, share and experiment together -
something, which in itself is a common passion.
This year, unlike last year, Noori let themselves free and totally
jumped on Rohail's bandwagon. The two experiences have been totally
different.
This year, Noori also took a very different, experimental route
in terms of the music they performed at CS2010. The band had already
intended, from beforehand, that if they got a second chance at
Coke Studio, they will perform with their parents. Luckily, the
theme for CS2010 was very congenial to creating such performances.
The passions which drive Noori and Coke Studio are similar. We
would more than welcome a continued relationship and involvement
with this project.
Instep: Anyone in particular you enjoyed working with?
Noor Zehra: I enjoyed working with Ali Noor and Ali Hamza
Ali Kazim: It is Mr Rohail Hyatt. He was the master of ceremony
during the rehearsal and final recording. And the manner in which
he conducts the act of a performer makes it a rich experience.
Noori: We loved working with our parents, it was a dream come
true.
Instep: Have you ever worked on anything similar to this before?
Noor Zehra: The music I do is different in the sense that one,
it's a lyricless music based on abstract ideas, two, every piece
is composed in real time and the considerations and direction
of attention are geared towards the resonance being generated
from within the instrument (the Saagar Veena) and three the focus
is on nuances and the mood of the raag. In case of the Coke Studio
experience, and because there was a lot of instrumentation, I
had to focus more on the pitch, time and arrangement of the music.
Noori: In its entirety, no, but there are many parts of the Coke
Studio production process that we utilise separately in our own
work. Recording live performances for example, videographing the
production, shooting performances, web development and so on and
so forth.
That is the main reason why there is a wholesome connection between
our work and Rohail's.
Instep: What are your views on Coke Studio so far?
Noor Zehra: I feel that with the third season inertia has set
in. The second was a season remembered throughout the year and
the expectations with the third were much more because of that.
Inertia means that there was a gap between the way it was conceived
and the way it was executed. Attention was paid more on form and
execution.
Ali Kazim: It is an experiment which has grown into an institution.
It has presented some of the most brilliant performances. It has
not remained static and Mr. Rohail Hyatt is not afraid to experiment
with new and innovative ideas.
Noori: Coke Studio is not a one timer. Over three seasons we have
seen a great variety of music coming out under this name. If one
looks at all three as one, then one can see the bigger picture
of this project.
Coke Studio is a platform where a Pakistani artist gets the opportunity
to showcase the best that one can show. Hats off to Rohail and
Umber Hyatt who have the skill of bringing out the best in every
member of their team. They create an environment for the artist
to perform at ease and with maximum involvement possible.
Instep: Out of all the seasons (1,2 and 3), who do you think has
had the biggest impact thus far?
Noor Zehra: I think the second season, and people know the highlights
of the second season.
Noori: This question does not have a clear-cut answer. The variety
of music is such that each performance has had a qualitatively
different impact from the other. In terms of public opinion, each
artist has been able to create a position of their own. Much important
is the recognition received by members of the House Band. They
are consistently standing out as the true shining stars of Coke
Studio.
Ali Kazim: Each of the three seasons contained some outstanding
performances and therefore one cannot single out one particular
episode.
Instep: In Season 3 what has been your favorite moment?
Noor Zehra: The first time I went for the practice session, a
month before the final recording. The first time we met with Rohail
and his team. Being in a stimulating environment, where one at
once felt the freedom to feel and express. By the end of the session
the feeling was shared by many of us.
Ali Kazim: My favourite moment was the happiness of my sons that
I was performing with them.
Noori: The pleasure of working with our parents and having them
present and involved with us for the first time ever was an experience
in itself. And then, seeing the entire Hyatt family coming together
for CS 2010 further established the feeling that its a full-scale
family affair!
Instep: As compared to previous seasons, Coke Studio has gone
more in the direction of folk music this season. Do you feel that
might limit the publicity?
Noor Zehra: No not at all. I think the publicity has been set
and established with season 2. It is not about folk music, but
it's about the expectations of the viewers.
Ali Kazim: Coke Studio has attracted a huge audience in the country.
Its now being watched by those who like modern pop as also by
that secion of general public which is nearer to folk music and
therefore Coke Studio has added a new dimension in its repertoire
to reach the public at large.
Noori: Not at all. In fact it has only broadened the listenership/viewership
of the program. Coke Studio is the highlight of the yearly happenings
in the Pakistani music scene and has a huge following both within
and outside of Pakistan. The theme of this season can help Coke
Studio to reach out to the real masses of this country - the majority
of our population whose tastes revolve more around the folk and
ethnic side of music.
Instep: Did you come about with your song yourself? What about
the composition?
Noor Zehra: I was guided by Ali Noor and Ali Hamza because it
was the first time I was putting the Saagar Veea into an already
formatted song.
Noori: For CS3, we focused on two things: Vocals and the Saagar
Veena, which too is a voice driven instrument of sorts. We worked
out their melodic structures and Rohail and the Houseband then
experimented with different kinds of instrumentation around each
melody. We ended up with three very different kinds of sound-scapes.
As far as composition and originality is concerned, one song is
50 percent original, one is 35% and one maybe around 76%. The
Veena parts are all original in the sense that they are improvised.
Ali Kazim (on ÔDil Hi To HaiÕ): ItÕs an old
composition, however the format was designed by Ali Noor and Ali
Hamza. Because of our pre-occupation with Ali Hamza's marriage
during the relevant period, we had little time to make critical
assessments of what we were going to do. Noor Zehra was always
reminding me of my lack of formal training in singing and stressing
the fact that before I give any public performance of this nature,
I should subject myself to the discipline of classical music.
Ali Noor insisted that you have to make a beginning now and the
training will come later. I succumbed to his pressure.
Instep: Were there any challenges or problems faced? If so, what
were they and how were they resolved?
Ali Kazim: The foremost challenge was to appear on a public stage
and to give a performace which will be watched by persons who
form part of my reference group and who after my performance will
critically evaluate me, forgetting that I am a novice in this
field.
Noori: The biggest challenge was to make our parents comfortable
with the performances. For both of them this experience was a
first of its kind.
Abba's voice is probably the finest we have heard, but he has
absolutely no sense of timing or scale. He sings very spontaneously.
And at the same time, he is a perfectionist and venturing into
the unknown can get very frustrating for him, especially if he
feels that he has limited control over a situation. Having him
work in a controlled environment was a feat in itself. Hats off
to Rohail for making him comfortable during his performance.
For Amma, who is a much more experienced musician than any of
us, although in a very different kind of music, the challenge
was to work under an entirely different framework. She had to
undo a bit of her own learning and ascribe to a different discipline
and approach.
The Saagar Veena was also not a simple instrument to record. Even
for Rohail, the instrument challenged his skills as a producer.
It took quite a bit of experimentation and ingenuity on his part
to fit the unique and delicate instrument (which is usually played
solo, by itself) in standard, pop orchestration.
Instep: What was it like performing with Zeb & Haniya?
Noori: It was great! We go back a long way and there was always
a keenness on both sides to do something together. Coke Studio
gave us that opportunity. In fact the Coke Studio recording was
the beginning of a collaboration which continued even after the
recording. The studio version of 'Tann Dolay' is complete now
and we hope the audiences appreciate it as much as the CS version.
Instep: What was it like performing with your sons?
Noor Zehra: I loved performing with them. I didn't perform as
well as them but I was very happy performing along with them,
especially in ÔHor Vi NeewanÕ.
Ali Kazim: I was nervous before, during and after the performance
and my sons were assuring me that I didn't do a bad job, and that
I'll do much better next time.
Instep: Would you do something like this again? Is there possibly
a Noori family album in the works?
Noor Zehra: I will definitely do it again, for learning, for diversifying.
And yes!
Ali Kazim: In this regard I have no personal agenda. I sang in
Coke Studio for my sons and I'll sing for them again if they wish
so. However, I have to satisfy myself that what I produce has
to be worthwhile.
Ð Photos by Rizwan ul Haq
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