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Keeping it real
'Roya Re', Shiraz Uppal's hit single for Pooja Bhatt's film Dhokha, bears his signature of simplicity and gives his fans something to enjoy while they wait for his next album, which is due to release in a couple of months time. In this Instep interview, the unsung hero of Pakistani pop shares his Bollywood experience and more…

By Sonya Rehman

 
 

Shiraz Uppal has to be, by far, one of the most underrated musicians in the country today. Always one to keep a low-profile, Uppal's music has always carried forth a sense of 'substance'; with melodies that are gentle, uncluttered and genuine.

From 'Tera Tay Mera', 'Jhuki Jhuki' and 'Mann Ja Vay', his songs include a lyrical sincerity that are backed with vocals which always manage to betray a sense of deep earnestness…Shiraz's music is anything but 'typical'.

And recently, he's recorded a single - 'Roya Re'- for a Bollywood movie called Dhokha, which bears Shiraz's signature mellowed-out-pop, keeping-it-real sound.

Speaking with Instep, Shiraz gives us the low-down on his experience in India, working with the Bhatts, his source of inspiration - A.R Rahman and his fourth album, which is due to be out in a few months.

 
Instep: How did the offer to do a song for Pooja Bhatt's film, Dhokha, pan out?

Shiraz Uppal: I was in Mumbai a year ago, when I happened to meet Mukesh Bhatt at the MTV awards. After inviting me to his office, I made him listen to a couple of songs from my three albums and the result was that he liked my voice and the compositions of the songs quite a bit, but really was looking for one particular song for Pooja's film.

He knew I had my own studio where I did my production work and keeping that in mind, he explained what Dhokha was all about, and then requested me to come up with an appropriate song which would suit the film.
 
So as soon as I arrived back in Pakistan, I started working on the song and it took me an entire month to give it the final shape that it required. My song was called 'Roya Re', and after I emailed it off to Mukesh, he instantly rang me up with positive comments about it, saying: "It's superb, I'm sure it'll do wonders for both of us - so please, lock the song for my movie!"

Instep: Was the song, 'Roya Re', recorded in India? What was your experience like?

A majority of our singers/musicians (after cutting an album or recording a single in India), come back with very positive feedback regarding the Indian music industry's 'professionalism'. What are your thoughts on this?
 
SU: 'Roya Re' was composed, produced and sung in my studio and they were pretty satisfied with the end result. However, they had to change the lyrics according to the situation of the movie, so my vocals were recorded at the Empire Studio Mumbai where we also recorded the female choruses and strings orchestration there. Later on a guy named Eric Pillai - who mixes a majority of Bollywood's songs - from Mumbai mixed 'Roya Re', and it was complete. Regarding them being more professional, yes they are, but I guess we 'sound' far better even without any academic training. In India, film music has great significance, although the film music released during the '50s and the '60s, in Pakistan, was superb in quality. But then again, our film music for some reason or the other could not develop much. However, we have shown considerable progress in the field of pop music. And presently, Pakistani pop music is being appreciated greatly in India, so in that regard we're miles ahead of them regarding local pop music.
 

Instep: Why do you think Bollywood is so encouraging of Pakistani music? They have brilliant playback singers themselves…why do they feel the need to pick out talent from Pakistan?

SU: Bollywood openly praises Pakistani artistes and holds them in high esteem - they don't happen to be prejudiced and/or biased in praising us musicians. And that is one of the main reasons as to why they've given us so many chances and opportunities to work with them. Understand that there happens to be a huge void regarding pop music in India, plus our compositions are very fresh and different from their pop tunes. In addition, they also understand what the commercial value of our artistes entails - I mean they could have easily signed on any other Indian singer, spending far less money than what they spent on my song, 'Roya Re'.

Instep: What are you currently up to? What's in the pipeline?

SU: Well, a Bollywood film director, Akash Khurana, has signed an agreement with me to include my track 'Mann Ja Vay' (of my album Jhuki Jhuki) in his film Life On Line. In addition, I've had pretty useful meetings with well-known music directors Pritam and Mithoon and both expressed their desire to include my songs in their movies - the nitty-gritty's of which are currently being settled. And alongside, I'm working on my fourth album.

 
Instep: Regarding your fourth album, do you have any month/year in mind for its release? Also, will its genre be similar to your previous albums?

SU: Right now it's under the production stage and will be out in another six months time hopefully. I've always believed in experimentation and each of my previous albums encompassed a different sound, therefore this time around, it'll be something different, and more soulful.

Instep: Have you considered cutting an album in India, if ever? A lot of our Pakistani artists have done so. Do you think you'll jump the bandwagon too?SU: Yes, I'm working on my fourth pop album keeping in mind the Indian market too. If our album is only released in Pakistan, we'll never be able to reach a wider, more international market, and that way we won't be able compete with other international artistes. My dream is to reach anyone and everyone who can understand the language in which I sing.
 

Instep: Think you'll work with A.R Rahman again in the near future?

SU: Yes of course, I'm still in touch with him and he's always been such a great source of inspiration for me. He definitely likes my voice and that is the reason he used my vocals in 'Shakalaka Baby'. I don't mean to praise myself or sound pompous, but Rahman really anticipated the fact that I'll make my mark in Bollywood. The Bhatt camp in India really is famous for using Pakistani talent in its productions, but recently they've been getting threats for recruiting talent across the border. Likewise, Rahman does feel a little insecure about promoting his Muslim brethren from Pakistan, and therefore he's never experimented with any other singer after me. Although the Indians respect and value us, yet at the same time they're apprehensive about the fact that we may wind up dominating their industry. But coming back to your question, yes, hopefully I do intend to work with Rahman soon.

Instep: 'Mann Ja vay' is a lovely number, what was your inspiration behind it? Also, the song's video is very current - how come it was shot only recently, considering your third album's been out for a while now?

SU: Nothing really inspired me - it was just an expression of what was within…I always end up making melodies that are soulful and which are close to my heart. Yes the video was shot in June this year in Karachi, by the duo of Sohail Javed and Abrar, who did a wonderful job. Actually the video was planned out a couple of times before, and different directors did work on its plot and concept, but for some reason it could not get a final shape. The reason why the video was also released now is because my fans apparently love the single - so I thought I just had to get the video out sooner than later.

What Indian critics are saying about Shiraz Uppal
"Pakistani guest composer and singer Shiraz Uppal steals all the limelight with the album's only hit track 'Roya Re'. Shiraz most acclaimed album Jhuki Jhuki has memorabilia of such soulful ballads and this too adds to his noteworthy credit list."

– Satyajit, Bollywood Trade News Network

"If you have been fond of music coming from the other side of the border and have been following Pakistani pop genre music in Bhatt films for last few years, chances are good that you would find 'Roya Re' interesting too. A track with sad undertones, it has a decent tune and rendition by Shiraz Uppal."

– Joginder Tuteja, Indiafm.com

"Shiraz Uppal does a fairly good job with 'Roya Re'. Of the lot, this is the best composed, written and sung song."

– Riya V Anandwala, Business of Cinema

"Composed and sung by Shiraz Uppal, 'Roya Re' is a pleasing and peppy number, even if it contains a sad title. The freshness in the voice of Shiraz Uppal is the plus point."

– Gianysh Toolsee, Planetbollywood.com